Pork Pies and Other Faux Pas

by vix on March 5, 2010


Very excited this morning to reveal my guest blogger! – Da Da! – It’s Karin from Cafe Bebe ! Karin writes at Cafe Bebe about living the life of an American expat in England. We were both very excited when our names were pulled out of the hat at LittleMummy’s Little Mummy is the brainchild behind this ‘Guest Post Day’! Karin and I seem to have so much in common – shared love of all things Parisian, lovely Englishmen (for whom we crossed oceans) and an uncanny ability to make cultural faux pas in our new country!

I’ve written a wee story about Expat Life over at Cafe Bebe (go over and have a squiz after reading Karin’s story here…)Karin from Cafe Bebe with her lovely Litle Miss & a famous person!

Pork Pies and Other Faux Pas

When I first moved to the UK, there was a massive learning curve that I never could have anticipated. It was 2005 and I was thoroughly loved up with my fiance Mark. He had come to collect me in Caen, France after I had finished my study abroad semester. I was never so thrilled as when he drove up, slightly bleary-eyed in his Volkswagen Passat. We spent a day driving across France to Geneva, Switzerland to spend a week with Mark’s sister and her family (our little match maker, she was) and then we journeyed back to England. 2 June, 2005 marked the first day of the rest of my life in this country and I’ve never looked back.

I quickly learned key terminology to allow me to survive. I learned that I spoke American and not English and that my (at the time) fiance was ENGLISH and not BRITISH. I was not fully aware that the UK is made up of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland and that most residents are rather particular when it comes to their nationality. I have educated my family and they no longer call people “Brits”…they are learning too.

Vocabulary was a whole different kettle of fish. Chips in Engand are Fries in the US; Chips in the US are Crisps in England; Pants in England is Underwear in the US; Pants in the US is Trousers in England. Pudding in the US is a chocolate or other flavoured custard-like substance that one eats following a meal; Pudding in England is either Yorkshire or the general term for DESSERT. So much to learn!

And don’t even get me started on spelling and pronounciation. I have dutifully learned that one of my FAVOURITE PROGRAMMES is NEIGHBOURS and not one of my favorite programs is Neighbors. I have learned to COLOUR and I ENDEAVOUR to FLAVOUR my SAVOURIES with salt. I now eat TO-MAH-TOES and BAH-NAH-NAHS. I nip to the shop for some bits and bobs and I try not to nick the last one of anything. I’m learning!

One lovely day, the first summer that I was living here, my future inlaws and assorted family all came over to our house after some outing. My sister-in-law-to-be had picked up several meat pies and a pork pie for lunch. She brought them into the kitchen and I started bustling about with them to get them in the oven. I found space for all of them. The beef and onion pie, the steak and ale pie, the quiche and the PORK PIE. That’s right. The Pork Pie went in the oven. What did I know?? Pie + Meat = Oven right? WRONG!

A pork pie DOES NOT go in the oven as I was to learn. It is already cooked and is meant to be eaten COLD. A pork pie has a pastry outside and a pork (and other bits I’m sure) inside and inbetween the two there is a gelatin layer. Now, what do you suppose happens when you put a pork pie, with its gelatin layer, in the oven? The gelatin layer melts, leaks out and effectively ruins the pork pie. And pork pies are not cheap! I went to the oven, checked on the pies and pulled out the tray (thank God I had put it on a tray) with the Pork Pie. It was swimming in now-liquid gelatin. Everyone looked at it and laughed and said “You put the pork pie in the OVEN???” I was MORTIFIED beyond belief. I had ruined the pork pie and had made myself look very AMERICAN in the process. This little mistake is still brought up every time a pork pie is involved. “Remember when you put the pork pie in the oven???” they say. Ha, bloody ha! My family wasn’t mean and they weren’t angry with me at all…they just had no idea that someone WOULDN’T know what to do with a pork pie. Cultural Faux Pas number 762.

Karin blogs at Cafe Bebe (http://cafebebe.co.uk) and is an American Expat married to Mark (the ENGLISHman) and mother to Little Miss (21 months). She blogs about their adventures and failings in addition to reviewing the occasional product and freelance writing about family things.

  • Luschka

    Hahaha…. great post – very funny. Got to love the faux pas. In South Africa we call trousers pants too – when I just got here I was just about to get in the bus when I noticed a hole in the leg pipe of my trousers and said to my husband, 'oh, look, there's a hole in my pants'. The old lady in the queue behind us almost chocked. poor dear. lol. very successful blog swap to you two!

  • English Mum

    Brilliant! This made me howl with laughter (and I promise I'll never mention the pork pie again, kay? LOL!

  • Kat

    I would have done the same thing unless I had been told otherwise. Must be my American side showing through my rough expat exterior.

  • Julie B

    So funny – love it – and such an appropriate blog swap. It's always amazing how you take little things for granted when someone speaks the “same” language. The pork pie has a special resonance for me as it is the one thing hubby and I have had our biggest argument to date over!

  • Cate

    Very cool, and you should see the looks you get here in NZ when you ask your kids in front of their mates if they are “wearing their thongs” when leaving for the beach. For us Australians – thongs are what Kiwis call jandals or flip-flops – and are worn on your feet. In NZ though, thongs are g-strings – oops!!

  • Vic

    You put a pork pie in the oven? Yeah, I can totally see your point.

  • notesfromlapland

    ha ha ha, what a brilliant post Karin! I was laughing all the way though that. it's amazing isn't it – two countries separated my a common language.

  • vegemitevix

    Isn't it great. You know what…. I didn't know that about pork pies. I would have put it in the oven too!

  • vegemitevix

    She's so funny isn't she! Love it!

  • cafebebe

    Aw, what a beautifully crafted post you put together for me! Love it! Thanks for being my perfect Guest Post-er! ;) Mwaaa…

    :)

  • http://sandycalico.blogspot.com/ Sandy Calico

    Loving guest post day. This swap was always going to be a good one.
    Shaking my head over the waste of some perfectly good pork pies ;-)

  • themadhouse

    I love all the cultural differences. You dont have to be from another country though, I am for the NE of England and when we lived down South it was the same for me!

  • vegemitevix

    One of the other funny ones is – if you went outside 'for a fag' in NZ there would be some very funny looks!!

  • vegemitevix

    It is fun isn't it. I've been thinking about writing a piece about expat life and some of the terrible faux pas we make. My Mum once ate raw bacon in Fiji because her hosts thought it was the same as ham!

  • vegemitevix

    I can't get my head around pork pies I have to admit. Actually I can't get my mouth around them! Thanks for commenting! Isn't she turning English though!

  • vegemitevix

    Funny you say that Mad, my hubby is from near Scarborough and though he has a soft accent he stands out in other ways down South! Eating Christmas cake with a nice slice of cheese is a tad different! Having dinner/tea at 5.00 is also bit different… I could go on.. Thanks for commenting. Would love to know some of the things you notice between North and South!

  • veryboredincatalunya

    Ha ha, love it. Not sure I would have forgiven you for ruining a growler though.

  • themadhouse

    We live near Whiby, so too to the cake with cheese, the dinner at 5, bread with pudding and we lived in berkshire too. Small world.

  • cafebebe

    Well, I do speak American after all! ;)

  • cafebebe

    So nice to know that I'm not the only dingleberry! ;)

  • cafebebe

    Ha! Pants! I am teaching my daughter the appropriate English terminology as well but I still have to remind myself from time to time!

  • cafebebe

    That's a rather BAD word in the US…not to be associated with cigarettes!

  • cafebebe

    Thank you for keeping my cooking inadequacies schtum! ;)

  • cafebebe

    Ack! I hope she spat it out! ;)

  • cafebebe

    I DIDN'T KNOW!!!! Ack!

  • cafebebe

    I Hate Pork Pies…there, I've said it! No worries about me trying one any time soon…

  • cafebebe

    Oh, yes, do write a post about the North/South Divide! I'd love to know those CULTURAL differences!

  • cafebebe

    So glad to know that it wasn't just me! ;)

  • vegemitevix

    Oh wow that's synchronistic! I'm dm you to find out all the juicy details. Love Whitby had a ball there with my husband and his family. We turned up and all the locals were dressed weird. Took us a while to click – it was the Dracula Goth weekend! LOL!

  • cafebebe

    Well, they could have dipped it in the liquid gelatin!

  • vegemitevix

    Those of us from the 'colonies' aren't rough, just unpolished diamonds love.

  • cafebebe

    Would love to know how a Pork Pie can cause an argument! ;)

  • vegemitevix

    Golly a growler is something COMPLETELY different where I come from… as in 'show us your growler!'. I don't think they want pork pie.

  • vegemitevix

    OoOOh Julie where are you from!? Loving this guest post day, it's like having all these new friends popping around for coffee. Long black anyone?

  • http://www.mumsgoneto.blogspot.com/ Trish @ Mum's Gone to

    Indeed! That's what I thought a growler was too haha!
    Great post, Karin. Now going over to yours to see the rest of the swap. I'm getting bugger all done today!

  • newdaynewlesson

    LMAO!

    I don't understand why the brits need to add extra o's to everythigng!

  • vegemitevix

    The Aussies do that too, milk-o for milkman, servo for petrol station. In NZ it's 'y' eee sounding – like card-y (cardigan),

  • vegemitevix

    Son aged 12 was helping folding the washing. He picked up one of my g-strings, shook his head sadly and said 'Mum I think it shrunk in the wash”!

  • vwallop

    Lovely post. We assume that we are all the same don't we, but it takes a pork pie to sort us out. Am I right in thinking that a durex in NZ (or is it OZ, apologies if that's the case, I know you two countries don't like being confused) is very different to a durex in the UK? I seem to remember a Trailfinders advert years ago along those lines…

  • JulieBB

    I still don't really know how it caused the argument – but it basically boiled down to the fact that Sainsbury's had one reduced to 10p in the “buy it before it goes off” section, and I had already planned our meal for that day. OK, sound like a total control freak now.

  • mari66

    I loved your post and if it's any consolation I had many many similar faux pas's in Italy.
    Pork pie in the oven indeed! :)

  • cafebebe

    Who knew??

  • cafebebe

    I can tell you that a Rubber in the US is a Condom! :)

  • Cate

    Hey Vix, is your email addy working? I sent you an email a few days ago & it's bounced back.

  • vegemitevix

    hiya Cate, email wasn't working but I have remedied it. Try vix@vegemitevix.com and see if it works now. x

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